OLinuXino roadmap 2015 :)


RT5350-OLinuXino-DIN

Many people ask us about what we do with Open Source Hardware OLinuXino project. Indeed we didn’t blog about OLinuXino boards often, but this doesn’t mean we do not have fun and working on them.

So let’s make brief update:

RT5350F – the DIN rail version is already complete and wait for assembly, the issue is trivial the plastic box, it will take us most of the time to complete.

Other OpenWRT boards:

We completed and now prototype MT7620N @580Mhz with some more RAM – 64MB and two WIFI bands 2.4G + 5G and 5 10/100Mb Ethernet and prepare board with MT7620A @580Mhz and little bit more RAM 256MB, x2 Gigabit and x4 10/100Mb Ethernets.

When these will be released – we don’t know, RT5350F software took us about year to get NDA info about WiFi tunning, we don’t know what it will be with MT7620, so do not hold your breath🙂

Allwinner:

A33-OLinuXino (Quad Cortex-A7) now is complete and on prototype stage, still had no time to check if Linux-Sunxi community have Linux for A33 and at what stage it is.

Now we route H3-OLinuXino (with Quad Cortex-A7 and which have Ethernet and HDMI) and A64-OLinuXino (with Quad Cortex-A53, HDMI, Camera, MIPI/LVDS/RGB, Gigabit Ethernet).

Why we stopped to blog or announce so often the new boards we working on?

Because when we blog that we start working on new OLinuXino board many people start to make commercial plans with them and how they will obtain OSHW designs for free for their commercial idea/project. Sure this have nothing wrong, if some of them didn’t became too impatient, annoying and noisy if the release time do not match their expectations. They forget that we do this for fun and we do not have any firm release dates, so they try any forms of social engineering posting challenging or abusive messages thinking they would influence us somehow this way, well soon or later they realize they can’t but anyway this is annoying for us as we want to work in rest calm environment and enjoy what we do.

We learn while we do this stuff, AM3352 software support took us year and half, we couldn’t find vital info for RT5350F for more than year, I have no idea when MT7620, A33, H3 or A64 will have proper Linux support, so please do not hold your breath, these boards will be released when they are ready, if you are capable to help with Linux on these please let me know, we can send you preliminary prototypes, so we can work together to speed up the release.

 

30 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. manuti
    Jul 22, 2015 @ 11:37:20

    And … what about the quad core pin to pin compatible version of A10 / A20?

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  2. neslekkim
    Jul 22, 2015 @ 12:11:44

    Is it the A33 that is the A20 replacement?

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  3. Thomas
    Jul 22, 2015 @ 16:01:48

    Regarding H3 here is a good starting point: http://www.orangepi.org/orangepibbsen/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=342 (build scripts included). And why not announcing it on https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/linux-sunxi that you might send prototypes to interested sunxi developers?

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  4. John Harding
    Jul 22, 2015 @ 16:19:53

    Wow – people actually bitch at you for not releasing OSHW designs on time? Unbelievable. Keep up the good work – I’m all for fun and a calm environment. I’m not a big consumer of your products – but I am a fan of what you do and how you do it…

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  5. Teh Maker
    Jul 23, 2015 @ 04:23:43

    As for annoyance: maybe just do not tell any dates if you not sure you can do it like advertised and only provide some overall idea of current state from time to time? Then, if someone got failed “business plan” it would be entirely their fault they relied on future product which isn’t here yet.

    As for improving Linux: I have idea: you can try to offer some boards with discounts (or maybe even some free samples if you can afford that) to most active members of Linux-Sunxi? As well as you can try to offer some early engineering samples (if hardware works okay). After all they’re already positive about Olimex due to the fact most boards are OpenHardware.

    This said, mainline Linux comes with certain timings. This can’t be ignored. Obvious example: to use USB-OTG in sunxi you have to either use crappy vendor kernel 3.4 (which is horrible and not fun at all!) or … well, it took 6 iterations to iron things out for mainline for Sunxi community devs, so it looks like would only hit mainline 4.3 kernel. So far, there is only 4.2-rc3 right now, so I would estimate it at least few weeks until 1st 4.3 kernel RC comes out with this feature ready and is somehow usable (sure, I can apply patches scattered here and there all over place myself if in really dire need, but it is difficult and no fun at all). Somehow, project which needs usb-otg got delayed a bit. That’s where two bugs seems to turn into one feature: rough estimate gives me idea I’ll be able to use 4.3 kernel right before project completion. So I can do most dev without it and then use 4.3 kernel when it’s ready to do last steps, including usb-device stuff. Yet it’s certain risk. So it’s basically about matching timings and leaving margins and alternative options, should something go not as one expected (which is quite common situation in complex technical areas). It’s really wrong idea to yell on mainline devs or olimex :)))

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    • SK
      Jul 23, 2015 @ 10:02:12

      The things from the second paragraph are being done by Olimex from the beginning of the OlinuXino project😉

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  6. ZikZak
    Jul 23, 2015 @ 13:17:06

    Let’s wait for the next hardware from Olimex🙂
    My A10 is struggling with what I (insanely) throw at it, currently encoding DVD to VP8/Opus.
    When the H33 is out I’ll re-purpose the A10 to something less stressful, most likely hosting my own email-box.

    I love your hardware and the software support you provide.

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  7. massi
    Jul 23, 2015 @ 13:17:40

    Have you already switched to kicad for this new projects?

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  8. Miguel
    Jul 23, 2015 @ 16:14:26

    Are the MT7620N and rt5350f code compatible with AR9331 ?

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  9. Bobby
    Jul 23, 2015 @ 16:21:28

    Gigabit ethernet on A64? I thought it is a tablet SoC and Allwinner will produce H64 with HDMI/Ethernet/… for TV box market.

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  10. SK
    Jul 23, 2015 @ 17:07:41

    Are you sure MT7620 have 2 radio bands? The datasheet states 2R2T channels but on the 2.4GHz band only!

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  11. Dimiter
    Jul 26, 2015 @ 19:39:49

    U-Boot release (v2015.07) supports A33 fully.
    You can proceed with A33.

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  12. Freire
    Aug 01, 2015 @ 02:15:58

    Other coming soon OpenWRT boards:

    VoCore2 (MT7628AN)

    … even has two antennas are able to work same time in different channel(maybe perfect for mesh net? :p) and many other new features such as SDXC support, hardware PWM, faster SPI through DMA…

    http://vonger.cn/?p=1861

    MT7628AN perhaps would be a better choice.

    http://www.mediatek.com/en/news-events/mediatek-news/mediatek-launches-mt7628-industrys-first-80211n-2t2r-ap-soc-for-home-router-smart-router-and-iot-gateway/

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  13. Trevor
    Aug 06, 2015 @ 16:01:05

    I want know more about the A64-OLinuXino. What kind size/speed of RAM can we expect to see on it? I’m all excited😀

    Keep up the great work guys, these boards are a Godsend.

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  14. kraeqaezhuplik
    Aug 27, 2015 @ 15:23:35

    Now, there is the nice challenge for H3-OLinuXino to beat the $15 Orange Pi PC in price😉 : http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/08/26/orange-pi-pc-allwinner-h3-board-is-now-available-for-15/

    From their forum though, there are several complaints about poor software support for the older Orange Pi models. Hopefully, H3-OLinuXino users will fare better in that respect.

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    • OLIMEX Ltd
      Aug 27, 2015 @ 15:41:41

      I can bet that people who waste money to buy this $15 boards will then buy ours too, same way these who buy the $2 ESP8266 boards on alibaba, see how useless and bad quality they are and then buy ESP8266-EVB🙂

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      • kraeqaezhuplik
        Aug 28, 2015 @ 05:29:44

        I don’t know how good or bad the Orange Pi PC is, but I like the snap-in camera they offer for the boards. Will there also be a camera for H3-OLinuXino or only for A64-OLinuXino?

  15. Bobby
    Jul 25, 2016 @ 13:46:18

    Maybe it is time for the 2016 OLinuXino roadmap🙂

    Reply

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