AM3352-OLinuXino design is planned


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New AM3352-OLinuXino design is planned, based on Texas Instruments’ Sitara AM335X Cortex-A8 processor, same serie which is used in BeagleBone

The board features will be:

  • AM3352 720Mhz, Cortex-A8 processor
  • 512MB DDR3 RAM (optional we will make 1GB RAM version also)
  • power supply 6-16VDC
  • 4 USB 2.0 hosts
  • 100Mbit Ethernet
  • SD-card
  • VGA
  • CAN
  • GPIO connector
  • LCD connector with touchscreen to work with A13-LCD7TS and A13-43TS LCDs
  • UEXT connector
  • JTAG

Comparing to Allwinner, Texas Instruments provides complete users manual, datasheets, and AM335X Linux support is already in mainline kernel, so this compensates the little bit higher price than A1X and the less performance at only 720Mhz.

The plan is to complete the schematic by end of December and to have prototypes in February, the price of AM3352-OLinuXino 512MB RAM version will be around EUR 50.

40 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. Erdogan
    Dec 10, 2012 @ 16:27:52

    AM3352, Debian, web Server .. I love it…

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  2. VU MINH
    Dec 10, 2012 @ 17:22:28

    I love AM335X too, and i has developed some cape for beaglebone, it can run Ubuntu 12.10
    LiberaOffice … this board is nice and good choice! good news!

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  3. ern0
    Dec 10, 2012 @ 18:26:08

    If it can run Debian (Ubuntu, which is a D~), it will be a successful product.

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  4. Serg
    Dec 10, 2012 @ 18:44:53

    Why no audio I/O?

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  5. Balaji
    Dec 10, 2012 @ 22:46:06

    Does it mean that, A10 Olinuxino plans postponed? I thought A10 Olinuxino will be a good alternative for cubieboard, as Olimex is more trusted than cubie developers.

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    • OLIMEX Ltd
      Dec 10, 2012 @ 23:01:59

      no, it does mean that we do what we can to make these prototypes alive, but without proper documentation this will take unknown time, we already spent a week without result

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      • Balaji
        Dec 10, 2012 @ 23:30:53

        I understand your problem, but still I wait for A10🙂. you guys will make it.

      • OLIMEX Ltd
        Dec 11, 2012 @ 09:11:01

        this is one of the reason to start AM3352 – in A13 we were on our own to solve the VGA controller issues, now on A10 we are again on our own to guess how to make DDR work🙂 I start to be a little tired of doing this, for A20 and A31 we will release such boards only when Allwinner provide complete GPL Linux Kernel sources

      • André
        Dec 11, 2012 @ 14:39:33

        That’s a bummer. Good luck getting the A10 working.

  6. Dany Suarez
    Dec 10, 2012 @ 23:57:39

    Esto lo que estaba esperando, gracias, saludos desde Chile

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  7. Georg Ottinger
    Dec 11, 2012 @ 13:28:13

    Make also a module version – plz.

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  8. Georg Ottinger
    Dec 11, 2012 @ 13:30:06

    Make a Module Version of this AM3352 OLinuXino – plz🙂

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  9. plop
    Dec 11, 2012 @ 13:42:17

    Very nice project !
    Olimex: remove the VGA output and eventually made it optional (using LCD connector) and reduce the size and the price !

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    • David
      Dec 18, 2012 @ 08:12:04

      NO! Please Do Not remove the VGA. This new board may be the only board in the Olimex line with proper VGA. We need at least 16 bit XGA resolution. Give us that, and you’ll pick up the (majority) of people around the World who don’t have access to affordable HDMI displays. Trust me, I know. I live in Indonesia where HDMI is still not affordable and comes only on TV’s. No PC monitors you can buy here have HDMI, only VGA. And that’s the way it is in most of the World. Just because the Fat Cats in the U.S. and E.U. can afford to buy HD TV’s with HDMI inputs – that’s no reason to ignore the rest of the World.

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      • A.Genchev
        Mar 20, 2013 @ 01:59:58

        Easy – You can have cheap hdmi – just get a $2.5 HDMI -> DVI adaptor and You can hook your old DVI monitor to the hdmi port. Now how good is that ?

  10. sagt3k
    Dec 11, 2012 @ 16:52:26

    A module as ARIAg25 http://www.acmesystems.it/aria , would be very interesting, easy, very cheap and permeterebbe to many of us the creation of custom applications.

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  11. Serg
    Dec 11, 2012 @ 19:16:52

    module like http://www.acmesystems.it/aria would be very cool, and it would be cool to have an option with 512MB RAM and 8\16\32 MB SPI FLASH without any nand.

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  12. Serg
    Dec 11, 2012 @ 19:36:36

    but it would fit an RTOS based system. “Big” OS could be started from SD card or something.
    Anyway, having such a board with NANDless option would be great.

    PS TI has StarterWare framework for AM335x, omap L138, TMS320C6748, it will perfectly fit on such system I think =)

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  13. Klod
    Dec 11, 2012 @ 20:05:44

    Happy to see this kind of development.

    a few thought:
    – 24V power supply possibility is a big plus for industrial like application (MP2562 for example)
    – RS485 (modbus) on one serial port is welcome.

    Big thanks for this kind of project

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  14. sagt3k
    Dec 11, 2012 @ 21:55:24

    I emphasize the idea for the module as ARIA, it is sufficient to have 512MB DDR RAM + SDcard + RJ45 to have a mini server. After all you need is a little imagination. With the ‘ARIA I’ve developed a module, I then added a PIC18 + modules + sensors + power DC / DC + RTC battery to create the logic on / off automatically etc 24hr/24hr always on. With very little I created a miniserver !!

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  15. tituzarzas
    Dec 11, 2012 @ 23:04:18

    Please. Don’t forget add the Sitara industrial networks: EtherCAT®, PROFIBUS®
    , CAN, RS-485. Two ethernet ports will be really cool. Like TI comunication board
    http://www.ti.com/tool/tmdxidk3359

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  16. OLIMEX Ltd
    Dec 12, 2012 @ 13:09:51

    Any idea why AM335x EVB and BeagleBone schematics have so much glue logic for the power/reset sequencing? All Allwinner want is CPU to be held in RESET 300 uS after the power supply is settled, so simple MCP130 reset IC works great for A13 , iMX6 schematics are also made with separate DCDCs and RESET IC. BeagleBone schematic have U14, U16, U17 FlipFlops etc.. is this really necessary? I can’t see anywhere in documents something to be written about this.

    http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM35x_Schematic_Checklist

    just says:

    Reset:
    Make sure that reset is kept asserted for the processor as the power supplies are ramping. You must not release the processor from reset until all the proper voltage/clocking is in place as specified by the data sheet. Conversely make sure that something on the board is actually RELEASING the reset once power and clocks are stable!

    are these some bugs which are work around with these additional components?

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  17. Luc Vercruysse
    Dec 12, 2012 @ 22:29:01

    I am playing around with the A13-WIFI. I was trying to get the SPI interface alive (under linux). Because the lack of documentation, I gave up.

    This new board looks great stuff for creating industrial controls!
    I looked at TI-site. Complete documentation ,plug and play linux kernels (real time kernel).

    24V power supply, VGA (or LVDS), RS422-485, CAN are my wishes.

    The EMC2 CNC project could be ported to this hardware (There are even 3 quadrature interfaces available).

    I am looking forward to use this AM3352 board !

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    • Elmar delbaere
      Dec 13, 2012 @ 00:54:26

      I’m looking forward too to have this board. Is there already an idea About the dimensions? Thanks!

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  18. petri
    Dec 13, 2012 @ 12:57:25

    Please implement version with two ethernet ports. It would make lots of interesting uses as a firewall/router.

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  19. mac
    Dec 14, 2012 @ 12:48:14

    This board to use as a EtherCAT slave would be great!

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  20. Alan
    Dec 15, 2012 @ 07:11:59

    Shame about the McASP’s not being good enough. I was hoping all you need do is replace a blinkenlight LED with a TOSLINK style transmitter
    Oh well – after that I’d have wanted HDMI video out, and SATA. I guess I’m just greedy.

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    • OLIMEX Ltd
      Dec 15, 2012 @ 10:15:33

      maybe you are dreaming for another processor, please focus for the moment on this one🙂

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      • Phuong
        Dec 19, 2012 @ 16:02:35

        Is is possible to design a simple AM335x dev board using 4 layers PCB stackup ? The critical part is DDR menmory interface, for DDR3 we need add some line end termination resistors (follow the manual data), maybe DDR2 is suit for this.

  21. Alessandro
    Dec 20, 2012 @ 11:31:07

    Congrats about your products and the switch for a producer (TI) that give better documentation and support on their processor.
    Good thing the idea to maintain the VGA output support since don’t only old monitor but even different Lcd monitor are present with only this port.
    Which resolution will supported from this new product?
    On my home i use my Pc on LCD (VGA based) at 1280×1024 pixel.

    For the future do you think you will develop even a board using the more powerful
    ARM Cortex-A15 KeyStone processors?
    For obtain a system with sufficient power for general use?
    I speak about something for replace a Pc for certain use.

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    • OLIMEX Ltd
      Dec 20, 2012 @ 11:40:44

      for the VGA I hope at least 1024×768 to be supported, AM3352 should have no problems with this but I do worry about our video “DAC”🙂
      no plans for Cortex-A15 for the moment, the KeyStone is at least 2 years to mass production IMO😉 maybe iMX6 4cores will be available sooner

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  22. Angel G.
    Mar 07, 2013 @ 22:14:38

    IMO the price segment for these devices is where the RPi is being sold (€40..50). The reason is that for € 62,55 one can get Asus C60M1-I with 2x 1Ghz AMD64 cores, radeon, 6xSATA, and SODIMM slots (RAM is not here).
    Finally Cubieboard (A10 w SATA) arrived, but at € 57,95 it should not get a chance vs C60M1 (for general computing) and vs RPi (for low power/Embedded/Gpio projects). Only fans remain as target auditory.

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  23. Rod
    May 20, 2013 @ 04:00:06

    Due to it’s powerfull processor, does it have the capability to work as a motion controller, that means to use pins as pulse generator for motors for robotic applications as for example cnc applications, or robotic arms?

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